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Post by jspbtown on Apr 1, 2011 20:56:41 GMT -5
Since I need to start wiring the dash up I thought it might be good to get a radio so I can get the layout down. There is really limited space o fit everything, unless I have room in my console.
So, I send the wife down to the local Walmart. Now remember...this car is being sold. I am not investing huge money into a kicking car stereo. She comes back with a Pioneer CD deck, detachable faceplate, with usb interface and 4 Pioneer speakers for $60. brand new. Can't beat that!
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 5, 2011 20:46:33 GMT -5
Wiring is about 50% completed. Man there is alot of wire. I am getting my second full 100 foot roll of grounding wire tomorrow and I had about 60 feet left on another roll. I am staying consistent with my past practice of running all the ground wires to a common place. Its so much easier to chase ground gremlins that way.
Had a set back last night that frustrated me. Has finished detailing the dash and brought it up onto the bench to start getting it wired. Drilled a few holes for the switches, a couple for the indicator lights, installed the tach and speedo then BAM! The smaller gauges were to small for the holes that were cut out. Geez,..should have checked that earlier huh?
So I started fabricating a steel plate that I could put over the gauge holes. It came out decent. I wasn't happy that I was going to lose the recessed look of the gauges though. I didn't have a 2" hole saw to cut the plate so I called it a night. On the way back in from the shop I thought "why don't I use the plate behind the recessed holes? Like a backing plate? That way I can keep the look? Hmmmm sounds good.
But then in bed...as I lay there ruminating...it comes to me. Just press some plastic cups into the gauge cut outs, flip the dash over, and glass the back of them solid. So thats what I did. 5 plastic cups wedged and taped into the recessed holes, flipped it over, and laid down 3 or 4 layers of matt & resin. I let it set up, popped out the plastic cups, and they are filled and relatively flat.
I will use my little angle grinder to flatten them out tomorrow and then my rotozip to cut out new holes. And best of all I didn't damage the paint.
It made my 3 hours out there wiring a much easier time knowing I had solved that issue.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 11, 2011 13:44:17 GMT -5
Gauges and switches are all mounted and 75% of the dash wiring and body wiring is completed. I am drafting a wiring checklist for me now since all the circuits were getting lost in my head. 24 wires from the front, 23 from the back, 32 from the dash, and 7 from the column. Yikes. and thats not everything. Everything will be devided into looms so the dash can be removed if needed.
Once the wiring is done I will get the carpeting down and install the dash and console.
I was also wondering what to do for the front turn/marker lights. Today I picked up a set of Factory Five front turn/marker lights for $34.00. They should look good.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 13, 2011 20:43:55 GMT -5
Wiring is 2/3rds done. Dash is now all wired with plugs for the circuits so dash can be removed. All plugs are coded and I have a 5 page wiring "book" that will go to the new owner so they can follow the wiring sequence. The plugs to all the wires from the front are also connected so I now have 20 something from the back that need to be terminated and installed in their plugs. I also installed the rear tail lights. The flash makes the red show more but they look black in regular light. I also got a neat little real (amplified..not a silly stick on one) shark fin antenna. I was going to go power but this little antenna will fit right on the roof line and is black so it will blend with the strip. Lastly, I picked up a pair of Vitaloni "style" (ie: knock-off) California mirrors that I am debating on using or not.
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Post by big bob on Apr 15, 2011 14:09:08 GMT -5
jeff, this is off the hook crazy good.
man, its looking good. what the surface on the dash. like krinkle spray paint?
again, wow....
bob
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 15, 2011 14:14:10 GMT -5
Bob,
The dash is SEM texture paint covered by Duplicolor trim paint. Wasn't too impressed with the SEM paint. Didn't give the texture I was looking for. Its all an experiment I guess!
All I have to do is run my speaker wires and mount my new little shark fin rook antenna and the wiring is done!
Then I will carpet the floor and then in goes the dash! Then steering, then doors need to go back on, then the windows need to be installed, then the weatherstripping, then door panels, and interior panels, and seats and and and.....!
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Post by dawgdk on Apr 15, 2011 19:52:29 GMT -5
nice detail work on the wires Jeff !!
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Post by mj on Apr 16, 2011 12:02:59 GMT -5
An amazing build. Thanks for sharing. Tried a bit of color correction using the spec for Performance Yellow. Still too much green fringing. Sorry.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 16, 2011 16:50:56 GMT -5
Thanks MJ! That looks closer. The tarps I hang are those blue ones so they mess up the color alot.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 19, 2011 13:10:15 GMT -5
Just got in my "California' styled mirrors. They are smaller than expected which is good. I think they will look gret. I also mounted my shark fin antenna on the roof. That looks good too.
trying to finish the wiring up. I realized a small mistake at work today for the headlights and need to run the speaker wire and then finally the ground supply lug & wires. I also need to run the contact switches I am using for the front & rear hatches.
Hopefully tonight.
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Post by gerrym1030 on Apr 20, 2011 7:38:12 GMT -5
Jeff, once you have the headlights wired, would you mind sharing how you wired them? I followed a wiring diagram I found on the web for a 2 headlight system, but either I messed up or the diagram was wrong, they just don't seem right...
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 20, 2011 8:36:05 GMT -5
It really depends on what switch you are using as to how they are wired.
For mine I used a DPDT switch. On a DPDT switch you have 6 terminals. 3 on the left and 3 on the right. the one switch is actually 2 switches in one. There is a lfet side and a right side, and each are seperated.
I ran power from the headlight fuse into the center right tab and jumped it over to the center left tab. Now both sides have power.
From the upper right tab I split the wire (you can do it off the tab or run a short section of wire then split it) and ran one wire to the low beams. The other wire went to my hi/low beam selector switch on the floor. There are 3 tabs on that selector. From a tab on that foot switch I ran 2 wires. 1 going to the high beams and one going to the high beam indicator on the dash.
So here is how that circuit works: power comes from the fuse to the switch. When you flip the switch up (DPDT switches are off in the center and on in the up & down directions) power goes out to the low beams and to the foot switch. The low beams light up. Normally the foot switch switches between high and low beams (on a 2 headlight system...not a 4 headlight system). In my application I use it to turn the high beams on and off. So, low beams are on and you hit the foot switch, this lights up the high beams as well and turns on the high beam indicator. Hit the foot switch again and the high beams and indicator go off and the low beams stay on.
For the parking lights I do the following: Working off the left side of the switch I run a jumper line from the top tab to the lower tab. From that lower tab I run a wire out (splitting as required) to the dash lights, front marker lights, rear marker lights, and plate light.
This is how that works: If you flip the switch down, then no headlights come on as the bottom right tab on the switch is unoccupied. However the parking and dash lights come on since they are wired to the left lower tab. If you flip the switch up, then the headlights come on (from the upper right tab on the switch) and the dash and marker lights come on since the upper and lower left tabs on the switch are connected.
Now like I said, if you are using a different switch there are different ways. Let me know what you are using and this system can be tweaked.
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 21, 2011 11:26:24 GMT -5
Spent last night getting the hatch warning lamp contact switches installed. Such a pain.
But, as I was laying on my back under the rear hatch area I noticed 2 things: 1. The floor under the rear window area has drooped making it impossible for me to install the starter. Looks like I am going to have to cut some fiberglass and re-glass while I attempt to wedge my ever expanding body into a very small area. 2. The bottom of the axles are resting on the frame horn. My chassis is a converted swing to IRS and apparently clearancing the frame horns is something that needed to be done.
So, out comes the tranny, out comes the air saw, grinder & welder and then I get stuffed into a very small work area.
Big fun!
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Post by 48flatbed on Apr 21, 2011 23:58:06 GMT -5
jspbtown great job on the Avenger!! Also great job explaining your headlight circuit. And it is a well designed circuit! The switch used is a DPDT 'Center off' switch. This is a small difference I know - but a DPDT just goes up or down with no off posistion and therefore would leave headlights or park lights on. Sorry to be picky I only hope to avoid confusion for someone buying a switch for this purpose. Jon
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Post by jspbtown on Apr 22, 2011 8:13:36 GMT -5
Jon, Thats correct. Center off. I used DPDT switches on all the applications on this car and all were center off. The only difference was 4 of the 6 were momentary on, meaning they spring back to the center off position. I used those for the windows and the front/rear actuators for the hatches.
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Post by jspbtown on May 3, 2011 12:32:03 GMT -5
Got my rear frame horns clearanced as well as the underside of the body for the starter. Re-installed the tranny and axles last night.
Got the sides of the interior (behind the seats) finished and now am working my way forward with the carpeting. I am making poster board templates of all the sections and then cutting the carpeting. Once that is done the dash is going in. After the dash its on to the steering, seats, and doors.
Having a tough time finding a nice set of wheels for it. I wanted to go black, with a machined or chrome lip. Finding a nice used set for a 4 3/4" bolt pattern is not easy. Lots of that style out there for a price I want to pay, but they are all 4 bolts or smaller 5 bolt patterns.
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Post by jspbtown on May 18, 2011 19:45:57 GMT -5
Well I think I hit the wheel motherload tonight. As my prior posting stated....I was having a terrible time finding wheels. Thought I would scan Craigslist tonight and these babies popped up Not sure if I will keep the centers gold or paint them black. What do you think? Keep gold or go black? They fit my bolt pattern, have 2 new tires and 2 tires at 70%. They are cool I think! And a GREAT price!
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Post by thehag71 on May 19, 2011 23:07:08 GMT -5
I think the wheels are awesome! As far as black or gold, I am a steelers fan so I say go with both Ok, seriously, gold on those kinds of wheels makes me think of young kids trying to look like gangsters. I would have to say go black, but I would really need to see them mounted on the car to make up my mind for sure.
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Post by jspbtown on May 27, 2011 12:56:17 GMT -5
Tried mounting one wheel on the front and rear last night just to see if they would even fit. Much to my surprise I think they will!
I will be painting them black. I have a large list of parts that need some black paint so they get added to that list.
Finished up the interior carpeting last night. all I can say is Wow! There were many panels & lots of carpeting but it looks good. I think I will try to get the dash board put in this weekend and then will get the steering done.
After that its the doors/windows and interior door panels. Its slowly getting there!
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Post by jspbtown on May 27, 2011 22:10:50 GMT -5
Got the dash installed tonight and only 1 issue with the wiring. I had the rear bear claw latch releasing when the rear hatch was coming down. It needed to release when its going up. Cut two wires, reverse them, and all is good.
So everything on the wiring works. I can't believe it. 18 or so circuits (power windows, electric bear claws, 3 linear actuators, wipers, headlights, etc etc) all worked. I was stunned. I evn plugged in the Flaming River column and it all worked.
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Post by jspbtown on May 30, 2011 19:39:05 GMT -5
Made a bracket for the column mount at the dash. Need 1 more at the firewall to lock it in place.
I just need to get the shifter installed and make a couple of patterns for the ebrake & shifter boots.
Also discovered that my wheels are true 2 piece units. The center gold sections are held in place by twenty eight 5/16" 12 point bolts. I can now remove them, polish the hoops, and paint the center sections. SO much easier then try to tape everything off.
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 11, 2011 16:28:17 GMT -5
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Post by rebel67 on Jun 12, 2011 8:07:37 GMT -5
Wow. Cant think of another word, but WOW! I lost track of how long this has taken you, but its worth every second! You have inspired alot of neat ideas for my GT build, and now I have it in my head to do it all, no matter how long it takes. Do it right or dont do it at all. Thanks for the inspiration, and it looks AWESOME! -Mike
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Post by Jeff Troy on Jun 12, 2011 10:32:27 GMT -5
Hey, Jeff,
Very cool. I always enjoy seeing your impeccable workmanship - as well as your enthusiasm for such a variety of subjects.
V-8s, center-mounts, EP conversions and all the rest may be fun and challenging for a gearhead, but to me, no kit car has charm, charisma or appeal without VW power.
The VW format keeps the fun level high and lets this shadetree wrench twister actually get a project finished reliably.
Warmest....
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 13, 2011 10:16:23 GMT -5
Well I tried my Tenzo racing seats in the Avenger last night and its a no go. Way to wide. I need a really narrow seat...like 16".
Any suggestions? I have a set of Corbeau seats but were hoping to say those for my Deserter dune buggy.
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Post by horen2tas on Jun 13, 2011 12:35:39 GMT -5
Don't know the inner structure of the Tenzo seats, but back in the day I had a BMW 2800 and loved the seats. At one point I took them apart and it was not overly difficult to take a section out of them to make them narrower, modifying the cover was easy also since it involved removing a few sections of the pleat & roll. You've gone so far with all of the difficult parts of the build, it seems like the seats would be a walk in the park!
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 13, 2011 13:18:20 GMT -5
I too thought the seats were going to be a drop in and be all smiley faced! I bought the Tenzos several years ago for a future buggy project but when I acquired my Corbeau GTAs I decided to use them in my buggy and thought there would go great in the Avenger.
I was shocked when they didn't even come close to fitting. I don't know how/why I didn't see this coming. The sills are so wide on the Avenger that I could have easily added 3 or more inches to the width when I had the body off the chassis.
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 28, 2011 16:40:25 GMT -5
Ordered some Mamba Baby Cub seats from GB Car parts. They were on sale for $199 a pair and about $115 to ship. They are 16.1" wide and my floor pan width is 16.25" so they should fit.
Also ordered up all the new vent window parts and rear window trim that I need for my painting day this weekend. I also removed all 112 bolts from my wheels, separated the inner section and will be prepping those for paint this weekend as well.
Also got my weatherstripping for the windows (needs some paint) and the weatherstripping for the doors and hatches.
Should have this thing on its own legs and available for pre-sale by mid July.
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Post by jspbtown on Jul 21, 2011 12:18:58 GMT -5
Well maybe not mid-July but getting closer.
Mamba Baby Cub seats fit perfectly. Still waiting for my shifter and ebrake boot so I can install the console.
Painted all my black trim and have the windows in and functioning. All new vent glass rubber is installed and looking good.
Have all 4 wheel hoops polished and will just be re-assembling them with the freshly painted inner sections.
Finishing up on the last interior door panel this weekend hopefully. Got the Corvette inner handles working well and the Mustang arm rests also fitted perfectly.
Brakes are bled. All the wiring is done except the license plate light so that will only take a few moments. got a new steering wheel so I just need to mount the seats to determine the steering column position so I can cut the shaft between the two u-joints.
Need to find some weatherstripping for the doors and we are good to go.
I need to take some updated pictures.....
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Post by kitcarguy on Jul 21, 2011 12:38:30 GMT -5
Lets see the pics
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