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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 3, 2012 21:33:18 GMT -5
It should have been the tan/lt green wires to the front. lt green is High Beam butI do not have high beam switch.
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 3, 2012 21:51:48 GMT -5
So you have a wire from the fuse block to the switch and then a green only to the high beams?
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 3, 2012 22:07:30 GMT -5
No it is Tan/Green from the fuse block to the front. I think from there I have Yellow (HL Power and Tan to the switch. On the paper it has Front Section and Dash Section. I just followed it like that
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 4, 2012 9:15:44 GMT -5
The way it looks is that the tan & green wires should be just loose (ie: not attached to anything) wires that run from the switch to the headlights/parking lights.
What I think you should have is the yellow supplying power to the switch, then (however you can do it...I used terminal blocks) the parking light wires to the parking light circuits and then a wire to the dimmer and from the dimmer the two wires that feed the hi & low beams.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 4, 2012 10:21:28 GMT -5
I will take it apart and take a few pics of the mess I have done..lol
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Post by whcgt on Jan 4, 2012 10:49:10 GMT -5
You guys would be unhappy with the wiring under my Invader GT dash. I used alot of the original wiring that was in the car, plus new wiring from NAPA. I payed little attention to the color of the wiring, only to the gauge of the wiring. I just made sure that I used the correct gauge of wiring to handle the proper current load. So, there are alot of black wires(old wiring) plus alot of different colored wires in the car. I just replaced the bad wiring with new wires & added switches & a variety of other components to my car.
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 4, 2012 11:20:05 GMT -5
Wiring should be as clean as neat as possible. A schematic of what was done should also be kept with the car. With my Avenger I am providing the new owner with about 15 pages of wiring diagrams and notes. If anything ever fails he will be able to diagnos it quickly. Of the 10 kits I built every none except one (the Manta...that was essentially a clean and buff) was re-wired from scratch.    |
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Post by whcgt on Jan 4, 2012 11:46:17 GMT -5
That is nice work.  |
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Post by skip20 on Jan 4, 2012 12:18:31 GMT -5
Like it when a plan comes together.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 5, 2012 8:26:25 GMT -5
Mine is clean and neat. I know where everything is and it is all easy to access. I just suck at wiring..haha
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 5, 2012 9:12:25 GMT -5
I feel your pain. I thought I nailed the Avenger wiring but almost every gauge was hooked up wrong (swapped the grounds and the sender tabs).
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Post by bobevans on Jan 5, 2012 12:24:19 GMT -5
My first frame was a "hollywood" bed frame..Plenty strong enough to roll the body around on..a little low, but worked well for moving the GT2 body in and out of the garage..it also folds up to be put out of the way when not being used...
bobevans
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 5, 2012 19:08:02 GMT -5
Alright. I have not corrected the problem because i did not have enough time. I think I did figure out what I did though. The switch I have is 3 position. On the back there is 3 prongs. Center is for power and I had the yellow headlight power there. Now I put the parking light (brown) on its own so if I switched to the right it would just turn on the parking lights(Brown), then on the other I put the Headlight low beam (Tan) as well as the tail lights (Brown). My thinking on this was turn on the headlights and I will have tail lights as well.
So without sounding dumb is my problem because I had the headlight and tail light wired up together? If it is then what do I do to get headlights and tail lights when I put the lights on?
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 5, 2012 22:00:38 GMT -5
The way you have it now you will get parking lights and headlights in either the up or down position. You can't have a the wires connected on one tab and not have that connection cause all to light when any of the wires (tan or brown) are energized.
If you want to have a toggle do that you need a DPDT toggle.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 5, 2012 22:06:03 GMT -5
Well how it is now when I switch to the left the headlights/tail lights come on. When I switch to the right the front parking lights come on only, and the center everything is off. Anyone in Orlando want to come over and fix this d**n thing for me? I have just about had enough fun with it. ;D
But for real I do not like this stuff at all. It makes me want to just pour some 110 on it and toss a match on the thing. I had a hard time even looking at the car today..haha
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 5, 2012 22:12:32 GMT -5
So you have 3 tabs on the switch. I am assuming you have the switch working from left to right versus up and down? Assuming that...
The middle tab is your power supply. Good.
The right tab has the brown wire on it for the tail lights? And crimped into the same connector (I assume) is a wire that goes to the left tab and into that connector is also the wire for the headlights low beams?
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 5, 2012 22:28:41 GMT -5
Yeah I have the switch mounted left/right. Center was headlight power. Right tab had the brown wire for the parking lights. Then I had the tail lights (also a brown wire) and the Low beam wire both going to the left tab. A total of 4 wires. I am not utilizing high beams, dimmers, ect.
Would this just be easier to go back to the factory switch?
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Post by 48flatbed on Jan 6, 2012 2:37:28 GMT -5
Kitcarguy, Here is an easy way to do it with the switch u already have. Install a diode with the banded side with the brown wires and the other side with the headlight wire. I'll attach a crude drawing if I can. Jon edit: works like a one way valve power only flows in the direction of the arrow (toward the band). 6A should be big enough. 2.59 for a pack of 4 at RadioShack. They're usefull for alot of stuff! Attachments:
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 6, 2012 8:20:39 GMT -5
That is interesting. I never messed with diodes or anything like that. Looks simple enough
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jan 6, 2012 8:36:29 GMT -5
Usually parking lights are paralleled with the tail lights and not separately switched.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 6, 2012 8:51:48 GMT -5
Yeah but in my mind they were..hahaha.
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Post by centralvalleygter on Jan 6, 2012 14:10:15 GMT -5
The use of a diode is simple and effective, but assumes single fuse for parking lights, high beam and low beam. Below are wiring scheme for headlight/parking light switches. All the schemes show a simple Single Pole Double Throw switch for the High/Low beam switch, but a footswitch or something else could be used. Scheme 1 is simplest with a single power source for all the lights, but uses a Double Pole Double Throw switch with a jump wire instead of a diode. Scheme 2 shows separate circuits (fuses) for the Headlights and Parking Lights, which is more typical. I personally like and use Scheme 3 as it has not only a separate circuit for the Parking Lights and Head lights, but also a separate circuit for the High and Low Beams. Also, the use of the relays (less than $5 each from local auto store), means less current flowing through the dash switches (allowing use of lower rated switches, if desired). Just some thoughts for your consideration. Warmest Regards, Steven  |
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 6, 2012 14:26:38 GMT -5
Now my brain hurts. hahah
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 6, 2012 15:03:17 GMT -5
Really the absolutely most simple way is a DPDT switch and the VW hi/low beam selector.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 6, 2012 17:40:52 GMT -5
Ok. I am going to try what you are saying jsp. I will go pick up a DPDT switch and try to wire it up that way this Sunday. Did you already tell me the best way to wire it using the DPDT switch?
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 6, 2012 17:59:49 GMT -5
Yellow power to both center tabs.
Connect bottom right tab to left upper tab then to parking lights
Top right tab to VW dimmer switch
VW dimmer switch to hi and low beams (3 tabs on VW dimmer switch).
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 6, 2012 20:51:25 GMT -5
I do not have a dimmer switch
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 6, 2012 21:22:44 GMT -5
Then top right tab to either the hi or low beam wire. Your choice.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 8, 2012 13:05:47 GMT -5
Ok . So there is no parking light wire that runs to the back of the car. Just the tail lights, brake lights, and turn signals. With that being said should I connect both the tail lights and parking light to the toggle switch? They are both brown. Also at the rear of the car is it ok to have the tail lights and brake lights on the top 2 rear lights and the signals on the bottom alone? I know many pages back Jsp has comments and said parking lights to all 4, signals to 2, and brake to 2.
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Post by skip20 on Jan 8, 2012 13:29:48 GMT -5
Ok . So there is no parking light wire that runs to the back of the car. Just the tail lights, brake lights, and turn signals. With that being said should I connect both the tail lights and parking light to the toggle switch? They are both brown. Also at the rear of the car is it ok to have the tail lights and brake lights on the top 2 rear lights and the signals on the bottom alone? I know many pages back Jsp has comments and said parking lights to all 4, signals to 2, and brake to 2. Tail lights are the rear parking lights! Turn on switch one time & front 9yellow) & rear lights (rear) should come on. Turn on 2nd time the H/L low beam comes on. Hit the hi/low switch & the high beans come on. Turn sig are the same wire front to back for left or right to flasher & column or foot switch. Do it any way you want " tail lights and brake lights on the top 2 rear lights and the signals on the bottom alone? I know many pages back Jsp has comments and said parking lights to all 4, signals to 2, and brake to 2" 2 & 2 would need double bulbs in them Turn only is a single bulb. |
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