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Post by modnar on Sept 15, 2011 12:10:30 GMT -5
Can you tell me what is the best "brand" electronic ignition would work good on a 1600? Or does it really make a differance?
Thanks...
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Sept 15, 2011 12:26:34 GMT -5
They are not electronic ignitions they are only points replacement modules. Many are cheaply made and flimsy, Pertronix makes a quality points replacement module. I find that most brands you have to sand down the bottom of the rotor so it sits at it's correct height. They are however over rated. The only real benefit is you don't have to adjust them once they are in. When they fail on the road, they are a pain to repair. If you accidentally hook them up wrong you instantly let the magic smoke out of the box [no warranty]. Of my 10 cars, one has a pertronix. There is a points dist in the trunk for when it fails. Simply swap dist and away I go. Same Idea as Dodge owners carrying a spare ballast resistor. Points are cheap, easy to install and it makes you pay attention to your ignition system at least once a year.
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Post by Gary Hammond on Sept 15, 2011 14:24:35 GMT -5
Hi Modnar,  I've been running a Compu-fire electronic points module for at least the past ten years in mine starting with an experimental engine I built up. When I couldn't get all the kinks out of that engine, I built up a more conventional engine with several modifications.  At that time, I added an MSD 6 electronic ignition box, MSD Blaster coil, .060 gap NGK plugs and CB's digital fuel injection system. This gave faster starts, eliminated the hot start problems and plug fouling, and has never failed me at any time ---- which is more than I can say for breaker points.  In fact over the 55+ years I've been working on engines, I've had a lot more problems with breaker point systems than I've ever had with electronic systems.  Nothing is fool proof, but there's a lot of good reasons why all the engine manufacturers have abandoned breaker points and switched to electronics! In addition to the Compu-fire module, the Pertronix is also a very good choice. Gary Hammond,   |
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Sept 15, 2011 16:36:46 GMT -5
They all have their pros and cons.
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Post by mj on Sept 18, 2011 20:10:32 GMT -5
Mallory Unilite - solid - very well engineered - points of ignition spaced further away to eliminate (rare) spark jump. About $470.
The Pertronix depends upon the stock distributor which is often from their utility distributor (used to power generators and water pumps).
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cali14
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Post by cali14 on Sept 21, 2011 11:52:35 GMT -5
I have had a Mallory Unilite distributor in my 1969 VW Type 1, never any issues in the 20 years of use. In fact I still have the new spare unit I bought in the mid 90's.
I worked for about 1 year on Pro-Turbo Drag Beetles, most often the Mallory Unilite distributor was used with an MSD 6AL ignition controller. The complete distributor is the way to go, and cost is not that much over the cost of a good stock unit. They come standard with vacuum and mechanical advance systems. One of the easiest conversions for electronic ignition, simple drop in replacement; no additional controller is needed. Performance is great; this is enhanced if you up the coil output voltage. We typically ran an 80Kv to 100Kv oil filled coil.
The unit is designed well; billet 6061 T6 construction with high grade replaceable bearings. The oil lubrication system has been enhanced to provide better lubrication at higher RPM. Our motors ran about 7,000 peak RPM, way above stock limits. In all it is a great unit, I would recommend it to anyone looking for an electronic ignition.
It never hurts to keep a spare unit handy even though you may never need it. I will post a couple pictures of my spare this weekend.
Michael
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Post by Jeff Troy on Sept 21, 2011 17:07:03 GMT -5
Hi, Guys,
I installed a Pertronix Ignitor in 1994, 340 thousand miles ago - and it's still there and working perfectly.
Building Fiberfab MG TD now, and have installed newer Ignitor, Pertronix coil and plug wire set. Did a 1641 for the MG, and it runs beautifully.
I'm sure a lot of systems work well, but I stay with what's proved itself to me in the field.
Warmest...
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Post by cali14 on Sept 25, 2011 23:55:10 GMT -5
Here is a quick shot of my 1992 NOS Mallory Unilite Distributor with electronic ignition. This is the same type of unit that has been in my 1969 Beetle since late 1991. The unit held up pretty decent considering it was not stored well for nearly 20 years. It fired right up today. Attachments:
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cali14
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Post by cali14 on Sept 25, 2011 23:58:09 GMT -5
Here is a picture overview of the electronics. Simple system, easy maintenance. Attachments:
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geddes66
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Now I am an instructor at the RTS-M, Camp Roberts CA. Teaching new Army mechanics.
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Post by geddes66 on Oct 29, 2011 22:40:05 GMT -5
I use the Compufire,"dirtibutorless" DIS-IX. It still uses the distributor as the triggering device. It sends a signal to a two coil, wasted spark type system (does not send the high voltage back through the distributor nor does it have a distributor cap). It has done well by me. My only complaint is they do not include nor offer a vacuum advance. A really good electronic engineer could design and interfacing module to add a vacuum advance though.
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