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Post by pushnfords on Jul 11, 2010 14:38:47 GMT -5
Most of the oil filler caps I've seen are aftermarket and just have the cap part. This engine has an extra tube that goes down through a hole in the cooling tin. What is the purpose of this tube? Also on the main cooling tin there was a piece mounted to the left side of the engine that was attached with one bolt and rivets. I assumed it was factory but had to take it off to clean out some mouse nest. Under it the tin is cut very jagged...so maybe this was a modification by a previous owner? What would this outlet be for? Maybe it is an inlet? None of the tubes were hooked up when I got the car so I'm not sure where they go yet.   |
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Post by vallyr on Jul 11, 2010 14:57:11 GMT -5
maybe some sort of weird doghouse oil cooler engine. ive never seen one myself but they do exist as factory stock? dunno though just a guess
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Post by centralvalleygter on Jul 11, 2010 18:19:14 GMT -5
Someone has definitely done a shade tree mechanic modification to your tin. The tins are normally symmetrical with respect to the heater air supply outlets, so the left (driver's) side should look the same as the right (passenger) side. It looks like someone installed something (A/C compressor?) that conflicted with the left side outlet, so they blocked it off and fabricated a new outlet on the edge. Pick up a HOT VW's magazine and there will likely be lots of pictures of engines in various stages of customizations. Could also order back issues. There are also several ACVW manuals out there.
Best Regards,
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Post by skip20 on Jul 11, 2010 18:55:26 GMT -5
extra tube that goes down through a hole in the cooling tin WAS ON THE OLDER CARS FOR CRANK CASE VENT. THIS IS BEFORE PVC VALVES & OTHER PARTS
The smoke & oil would come out of it.
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Post by Eric A on Jul 11, 2010 19:06:09 GMT -5
The oil vent tube is still found on some after market filler caps. I have one but it is billet and looks much nicer. Mid America sells them
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Post by shawn813 on Jul 11, 2010 20:12:46 GMT -5
The doghouse port was cut off and moved for A/C , I've seen this on cars in our shop before done by gilmore enterprises in st pete. the compressor sits right where the old port comes out.
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Post by don29163 on Jul 11, 2010 20:21:21 GMT -5
I have one of those shrouds that is in great shape, if you need it. just pay the shipping.
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Post by pushnfords on Jul 11, 2010 22:27:02 GMT -5
Pick up a HOT VW's magazine and there will likely be lots of pictures of engines in various stages of customizations. Could also order back issues. There are also several ACVW manuals out there. Best Regards, I'll see if I can find some to order online...I'm in rural KS so I either drive long distances or go to the internet! ;D extra tube that goes down through a hole in the cooling tin WAS ON THE OLDER CARS FOR CRANK CASE VENT. THIS IS BEFORE PVC VALVES & OTHER PARTS The smoke & oil would come out of it. I thought it looked a lot like a road draft tube but I didn't expect one on a '72...unless the engine is older. The oil vent tube is still found on some after market filler caps. I have one but it is billet and looks much nicer. Mid America sells them Eric A This one I assume? Does look a lot better...I was going to send the other one out to powder coat but maybe not! Where do you have the vent tube routed to? I just saw these: www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=2.3284If I can find some in stock that might be a good way to go. The doghouse port was cut off and moved for A/C , I've seen this on cars in our shop before done by gilmore enterprises in st pete. the compressor sits right where the old port comes out. Yep, this car had A/C. For now I don't think I'll put it on...too many other things I'm fighting. Was there a different tin for A/C? I have one of those shrouds that is in great shape, if you need it. just pay the shipping. I'll probably take you up on that. Going to check with the car's owner first and see if he is still wanting to completely remove the A/C or if he wants to leave it so we could possibly put it back on easily in the future. Any chance you have a good cylinder top tin (the ones with the cylinder numbers stamped in)? I'll have to look again to see which side but I have one that is cracked and it is in a hard place to weld. |
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jul 12, 2010 8:19:24 GMT -5
If you decide to do away with the AC I'd be interested in purchasing any and all AC parts.
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Post by Eric A on Jul 12, 2010 10:07:03 GMT -5
Yes that is the oil filler I have. The hose is routed straight down thru the tin. Use due caution when filling with oil it can run out the vent tube.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Jul 12, 2010 11:36:48 GMT -5
Hi, Guys,
If you have a GT without air conditioning, best of luck to you -- especially if you get caught in a summer rain shower with the gulls in the car.
The GT is absolutely unbearable in hot weather with the gulls and rear window in place.
I've had air since my original build in 1976, then thought that I could do without it when I planned my 2000 rebuild. That flash of brilliance got this stupid ass less than a few months before I popped the body and put the AC back where it belonged.
Even if you don't mind smoldering inside your rolling terrarium, the air-co is a much-needed accessory for getting rid of early morning (or any other time of day) fog or clouding on your windshield.
Air-co -- don't leave home without it.
If you're on a budget and need a make-do when the gulls are on, try this.
Engage the rear clip on the driver gull. Leave the front clip hooked but unlocked. Slip a cigarette pack (or something of similar size) between the front corner of the gull and the body. That will let "some" air enter the car.
Do the same for the passenger gull, but at opposite corners. Engage and lock the front clip but don't lock the rear clip. Put another spacer between the rear corner of the gull and the body. That will provide an exit for the air.
Still no picnic, but this method will help a little when traveling above 25 or 30 MPH. This is about the only way to get some flow-through ventilation to the coc*pit.
Sorry guys. If you want survival in a closed GT, it's pay for air or die.
Also sorry about the cigarette reference. It's kind of TPT now, but I used to do 4-1/2 packs a day in my rock & roll days. If you think that a GT in summer with the windows on and no air is a problem, just try adding a pack or two of cigarette smoke to every day's mix.
There were several years when I was on the road and used the GT as my main vehicle. Doing 80K miles a year in a GT will teach you a lot about what a car does and doesn't do well.
If you only drive your car when the sun is shining, our perceptions of what an automobile is and does have little in common.
Warmest...
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Post by urmonkey on Jul 12, 2010 12:45:23 GMT -5
Jeff whats the ac cost? is that in the cd you sent me? so much info i havent made it through it all yet
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Post by pushnfords on Jul 12, 2010 19:41:40 GMT -5
I know what you mean Jeff. The owner is pretty adamant that he doesn't need A/C but I am keeping all of the parts in case he changes his mind. In high school I bought a '71 Torino GT and used to get frustrated when all of the "old geezers" in the local car club wouldn't drive their old cars to a show because it was too hot. I must be getting old (29) though because this year I bought A/C equipment and fixed it in all of my vehicles. Anymore if I make the 45 minute drive to and from work in the 90-100 degree heat I just feel baked and have no energy.
What type of A/C system are you running? I've been wondering if it would be worth messing with the kind that was in the car or just go with a Vintage Air type setup if the owner changes his mind.
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