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Post by pushnfords on Jun 5, 2010 14:12:38 GMT -5
As you can see in this link, I'm working on an ugly engine: i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/PushnFords/1978%20Bradley%20GTII/Bradley013.jpgThe owner wants everything replaced with chrome but I was worried about it rusting quickly and mj and jefftroy (thanks!) warned about bad fitment. I'm talking to the owner now about powdercoating everything. Personally I'd powdercoat my own projects if I had the money for it...I like it a lot. I've found www.awesomepowdercoat.com/ on thesamba.com and he says their kits are made from the Scat 36hp designs. Are those decent fitting or am I better off shipping in my old tin and having them coated? Or...are there new kits out there that fit and function correctly?
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Post by pushnfords on Jun 5, 2010 17:59:46 GMT -5
You can powder-coat a turd, but it is still a turd. It is highly unlikely that this client of yours will drive the car long enough to find a difference. He will quit for many reasons before rust is a problem. . I'm just assuming the chrome tins they sell are about like the chrome Edelbrock valve covers and air cleaners they sell for V8s. Let them sit for a year and they are covered with rust. At least a part like that can be wiped off but some of the tin is difficult to reach. The body won't be the nicest around but the drivetrain is going to be a good one...and plans are to make the interior respectable as well. It may not ever see that many miles but I'd like it to hold up year after year. The owner is retired and goes to most of the local car shows. I've just spent 4+ hours reading through posts over on thesamba.com. What confuses me is that so many people recommend the factory tin yet almost all of the builders of turnkey engines advertise 100% new tin. A couple of them said they modified the new tins with the missing pieces and filled in the gaps but nowhere near all of them.
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Post by mj on Jun 6, 2010 8:09:27 GMT -5
The builders of turnkey engines use new tin because rebuilding (and even finding) German tin is so difficult. pshinfords, note that they have a page that offers German tin. Highly recommended. Paint is good to keep rust under control. Choose whatever color you like. Color makes no difference to the engine. There are more tin parts intended to warm the engine than to cool it. That just demonstrates how difficult an engineering task air cooling can be. Look to the flaps and thermostat. Here: www.awesomepowdercoat.com/thermostat_flaps.htmlBTW, the "Hoover Bit" is named after Jim Hoover, a long-time expert on ACVWs. Jim is very ill right now. Keep him in your thoughts if you can.
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Post by pushnfords on Jun 6, 2010 19:55:07 GMT -5
There are more tin parts intended to warm the engine than to cool it. That just demonstrates how difficult an engineering task air cooling can be. Look to the flaps and thermostat. Here: www.awesomepowdercoat.com/thermostat_flaps.htmlBTW, the "Hoover Bit" is named after Jim Hoover, a long-time expert on ACVWs. Jim is very ill right now. Keep him in your thoughts if you can. More and more of the innovators and pioneers in the automotive hobby are in failing health or have already passed. Fortunately some have shared their knowlege...I've worked with others who refuse to write anything down or share what they know and it is a shame what knowledge will be lost. I hope the best for Jim. Well crap...I don't have thermostats, flaps, etc. I'm assuming these help retain heat until the engine warms up? Guess I'll have to start looking for those as well. This car is giving me a headache! ;D
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Post by didget69 on Jun 6, 2010 21:49:41 GMT -5
The flaps & thermostat are designed to keep as close to balanced cooling as possible - not to retain heat, but to control the air flow through the shroud.
bnc
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Post by pushnfords on Jun 6, 2010 22:58:15 GMT -5
The flaps & thermostat are designed to keep as close to balanced cooling as possible - not to retain heat, but to control the air flow through the shroud. bnc They would be worth buying and installing though right?
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 7, 2010 8:02:59 GMT -5
Again, it depends on your application.
Is using them "the best"....probably.
Can you get by without them?.....probably.
I only say this because they are lots of VW out there that probably have rusted flaps or a cracked thermostat and owners don't even know it.
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