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Post by vallyr on Mar 13, 2010 17:35:31 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I just bought my first gt which isnt in great condition. I bought it because my beetle was in an accident so I figured it would be a good project to transfer the parts into a bradley i found thats missing the engine, trans, front beam and drivers door.
I saw on the old page that as a new owner we are eligible to get a cd with info on bradleys? Read that shortly before getting a message about how the page was hacked by some eastern europeans.
Any chance I can get some one to send it to me online?
The main missing parts I need are a drivers door and a Windshield. Any suggestion where I could look and what kind of price I could expect to pay? I bought my gt for 400$, so Im hoping to spend as little as possible. Perhaps some parts can be improvised?
I read on wikipedia that alot of the early gts borrowed parts from production autos. Any chance they did with the windshield and door? Could just salvage from another car or improvise if they did.
Any other info you guys could offer would be great. Ill post pics when I get it towed out here.
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Post by don29163 on Mar 13, 2010 17:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by vallyr on Mar 13, 2010 18:25:10 GMT -5
jeffroy posted this Sun Ray has windows right now. See the separate post.
GT windshield is 1963 - 1967 Corvette coupe. Convertible windshield does not fit as well in the upper corners. If your glass company says they're the same, thank him and be sure he orders the coupe version anyway - or be prepared to have the convertible windshield returned.
Wiper arms are generic AMCO, and most everyone uses lengths of the arms and blades that suit what they want. I use an 11-inch blade on the standard arm. Most owners choose to go larger. ...
So im guessing an old vette windshield will work. Hmm
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Post by vallyr on Mar 13, 2010 18:26:52 GMT -5
Read your website Don, sweet find!
As a minimum wage overqualified rank and file grunt Im limited on my budget, and this car will be my daily driver when i fix it.
Im totally enamored with the idea of gull wing doors, bet thats one of the hardest parts to fix/find. I live in Washington state so wish me luck finding the drivers door before it rains haha.
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Post by geddes66 on Mar 14, 2010 15:47:38 GMT -5
There is an easy and cheap shortcut to doors. just buy a piece of flat 1/4" thick flat Lexan, (polycarbonate) or Plexiglas (polyacrilic) and cut it for the top part. Do the same for the side. bend three 2" metal ribs and bolt the two parts together. instant (relatively) cheap doors. the advantage is you can use wingnuts to hold the two together and then take off the side any time it warms up and still have a roof. Attachments:
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Post by geddes66 on Mar 14, 2010 16:02:35 GMT -5
The same can be done for the rear window. Lexan is much stronger but Plexi is much more scratch resistant. Here is my back window. Attachments:
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Post by geddes66 on Mar 14, 2010 16:05:19 GMT -5
Better doors can be made with plywood and fiberglass. Attachments:
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Post by vallyr on Mar 14, 2010 17:17:45 GMT -5
wow, that is some great news Im going to have to try that. Plywood looks cool too. I'd be concerned about the wood warping though with how wet it is here
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 15, 2010 21:04:33 GMT -5
Hi, Vallyr,
Assuming your Bradley is a GT and not a GTII, the windshield is 1963-67 Corvette coupe. Probably run from $175 - $250 at almost any auto glass shop. If it's GTII (Twoie), there is no commercially available replacement windshield. The Twoie used a proprietary windshield that is no longer in production.
Ray Tierney has Plexiglas doors for the GT in smoke (tinted) and amber (clear). They need to be trimmed to fit each individual car as each Bradley assembler fits things a bit differently.
The full doors are $250 each, but Ray has Half-Doors, similar to what Chris Geddes pictured in his post. Halfsies are $100, and extend approximately 6-8 inches below the curve. Just cut some sheet Plexiglas to fit the lower section and use your imagination to come up with a hinging or mounting system of your own.
Even if you got your car for nothing, the price of parts is still the price of parts. A discounted stove doesn't get you discounted food. Other than the VW donor items, Bradley used very few parts from other cars in the GT, although many parts -- specifically hinges and the gas tank filler - are marine items. Most can still be had from any decent marina.
Finally, joining the club doesn't get you the CD. You can get that with a PayPal for $35 to jefftroy@aol.com, or a check or money order to Jeff Troy, 759 New Holland Ave., Lancaster PA 17602. I'm sure that almost any member will tell you that the CD is very helpful and well worth the price. Incidentally, $5 from every CD sale is donated to maintaining this Web site.
If there is something specific that you need, I'm always willing to send out a page or two two to help. When you need more than that, you'll understand why I made the CD.
All the manuals and updates are on the CD, in addition to roughly 625 thousand miles of history with my own '76 GT - one original build and five rebuilds, two of which were complete, ground-up restorations.
Good luck with the car and warmest regards,
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Post by vallyr on Mar 16, 2010 0:01:44 GMT -5
yeah its an original GT, the doors actually look to be pretty easily fabbed so I think I might try my hand at that and do a metal top and run some rally stripes over it.
I'm totally interested in the cd, and can paypal ya no prob, Is there any chance you could zip the cd and send it online though so I dont have to wait for snail mail?
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 16, 2010 9:58:20 GMT -5
Hi,
Sorry, no. The files are huge, and would take all day to upload through AOL. I won't do that.
I don't mind sending Priority at no extra charge if you're in a hurry. Regular postage is included in the price.
If you absolutely can't wait, just send an extra $10 ($45 total) and I'll ship Next Day Air. You'll have to give me a street address for that; UPS won't ship to P.O. boxes. Where are you? If your state neighbors PA, it would only take a day or two to get to you.
Thanks and regards,
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Post by vallyr on Mar 16, 2010 19:24:57 GMT -5
nah its okay, ill send you a pm with my address and paypal on friday when I get my pay check. I live way out in northern washington opposite coast heh.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 16, 2010 20:30:58 GMT -5
Thanks,
I'll get it to you Priority as soon as the PayPal arrives.
I travel extensively, and will be leaving for a model airplane show in Ohio from April 8 -14.
I have no provision for shipping when I'm away, so if you're in a hurry, try to get to me before the 6th.
Warmest...
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Post by vallyr on Mar 19, 2010 11:34:07 GMT -5
payment sent with my address from anidleteen@..
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 24, 2010 11:22:28 GMT -5
Hi,
You should have gotten the CD yesterday. FedEx said they would get it to you by Tuesday. Too late for Saturday, so went next day on Monday AM.
By your e-mail, I took it for granted that you are "an idle teen," and returned the extra $10 you sent for fast shipping. It's in cash in the package. I have a daughter at U-PENN, and I understand young people on budgets.
Good luck with the car. You're on the right board for help.
Warmest...
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Post by vallyr on Mar 24, 2010 11:54:18 GMT -5
Thanks Jeff, I did get the cd yesterday. It was perfect timing too. After I got off work (grocery store graveyards) I got some friends and a uhaul and trucked for three hours south on the freeway, picked up the bradley. Though I've seen it before in person, I hadnt had a large truck and some lifting buddies. I trucked it back in a uhaul back and dropped it off at my friends(his dad restores cougars and willies). I left at ten am, got home at seven thirty. As soon as I got back saw that my cd had arrived! Though, the total cost for the uhaul including refilling its sixty gallon tank was about 300$. Between that and the cost of the rotted out bradley, 400$. I almost think it wouldve been wise just to buy one that runs! Never the less it will be a fun project to build. As a result I'm probably going to be eating mac and cheese for quite some time heh. Attatching a couple of snap shots i grabbed on my phone before I abandoned my car at my buddies shop.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 24, 2010 13:40:21 GMT -5
Hi, Val,
Cool. When I built my GT in 1976, I ordered the root beer rmetalflake like yours. Looks like you also have the same fawn (light tan) upholstery. My car came with the fastback window, but I installed a Sundowner soon afterward when the that shorter window option was announced. If you like the Sundowner better, you can cut one from the fastback without having to buy a new window. You'll have to make a number of gasket and attachment changes, but images and a few rough of my sketches on the CD will indicate what's needed.
According the configuration of the engine lid, and the lack of rubber bezels under your tail lights, you kit was sold by Bradley in 1975 or before. The lid was changed (wider ledge and license light above the plate instead of below) in 1976.
Good luck. These cars are a f**in' blast.
Warmest,
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Post by beachbum45 on Mar 24, 2010 18:48:42 GMT -5
cool you got a bradley. i got mine three years ago,its a great toy. just repainted for the 2nd time.i got the cd from jeff a lot of good info on it.if you go through the cd slow and look you can see just how to put your bradley back on the road.have fun with it and hope to see it at a show sometime. we need to keep thease cars on the road so thay can be seen. rusty
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Post by vallyr on Mar 27, 2010 20:15:23 GMT -5
separated Bradley body from the old chassis . Now its on blocks next step is pulling my bug body off [chassis it came bolted on]
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 27, 2010 21:15:56 GMT -5
Don't be intimidated by what looks like a huge project ahead of you. Work slowly and methodically, one step at a time, and it will all come together.
The biggest issue with most GT's in rough condition is the electrical system. My advice is to turn the body inverted, and go through the system test at the end of the wiring manual. If you find anything that isn't working properly, now is the best time to find it, and inverted is the easiest way to repair it.
When the electrical system is 100 percent -- 99-1/2 isn't good enough -- reassemble the car.
Good luck, and regards...
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Post by don29163 on Mar 27, 2010 21:31:25 GMT -5
What program are you using to open the files on the CD? When I double click the file it opens IE and then is just blank.
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Post by don29163 on Mar 28, 2010 18:59:48 GMT -5
Jeff called and helped me out, His CD was fine, it was my error. He sure is a nice guy, and the CD is very helpful.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Mar 30, 2010 8:01:51 GMT -5
Thanks, Don,
The follow-up is appreciated.
Glad everything is working out.
Warmest...
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Post by stevevw on Apr 4, 2010 17:15:06 GMT -5
Vallyr, Where are you located <city>? I am in Marysville , my Bradley is a GT2 and I absolutly love the car . I try to make all of the local shows, from BC to Oregon . I have not been on the site much lately , busy as heck getting my Bus ready for the season .
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Post by vallyr on Apr 5, 2010 11:31:04 GMT -5
Im up in skagit county so marysville isnt too far off heh.
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Post by vallyr on Apr 19, 2010 0:21:52 GMT -5
got the body bolted on, cleaned the gas tank, got the brakes hooked up, got the steering colum attached but had to use the bug one the bradley one was major screwed up when i got it,. Took it for a 2minute test drive with no seats.
Any tips on attatching the seats?
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Post by doug on Apr 19, 2010 17:01:52 GMT -5
original seats?
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Post by vallyr on Apr 19, 2010 19:09:33 GMT -5
yeah the original fiberglass buckets, when i got the car they were just thrown inside the cab. Bolting them straight to the pan seems like a really bad.
Havent taken out the bug rails yet but if you look at them they are sitting on a stronger point in the pan but the narrow slots in the fiberglass seats arent wide enough to hit the strong points.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Apr 19, 2010 22:05:17 GMT -5
Hi, Val,
Not looking at what you have, but it seems that two 1/4-inch-thick steel strips could run from right to left between the VW tracks on each side of the car, then the glass buckets could be bolted to the plates at their strong points. You could move the seat fore and aft to find the best location before drilling the seats and the plates.
The only negative I see is that the 1/4 inch plates will cost you another 1/4 inch of head room.
Warmest....
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Post by vallyr on Apr 20, 2010 1:00:09 GMT -5
yeah, ill see if i can get some pictures up in the next day or two. Always knew head room and leg room would be a commodity even with my lift i welded together, but never realized how much until i dropped a big block of wood inside for a seat and took a test drive. Was having some issues with the grant steering wheel thats on my bug column i dropped in, so I ordered a custom chirco one along with some performance ignition parts I had planned on getting anyways. 9"(smallest i could find) but has the advantage of being 5" deep which may help me slid back a bit so im not up against the wind shield.
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