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Post by trimagnum on May 18, 2013 18:10:16 GMT -5
When the time comes to do the brakes again it would be nice to convert to 4 wheel disc.
I know they will stop better and all that . The main concerns are the pads are they off the shelf or custom. Custom seems cool but if the company goes out so does your pad supply. So has anyone converted and were the pads off the shelf or custom for that set up?
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Post by Dan MacMillan on May 18, 2013 20:51:45 GMT -5
I have done it to 2 cars. I believe they are Ghia pads in most front disk kits. Rears I am not sure. Pads are cheap and last a long time. Just buy a few extra sets for your own stock.
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Post by trimagnum on May 19, 2013 0:19:29 GMT -5
Thanks Dan . When I had the TVR finding some wear items was a pain in the neck . So a degree of paranoia has set in regarding spare parts since then . The Beetle brakes are ok for now but if any upgrades happen more stopping power would be nice .
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Post by Dan MacMillan on May 19, 2013 5:58:46 GMT -5
Do not, I repeat do not buy the "upgrade, designed for disk brake, master cyl for disk brakes. The increased bore is not needed and results in higher pedal effort. The stock Beetle master works much better. Slightly more travel but more pressure getting to the calipers.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on May 19, 2013 6:05:00 GMT -5
Nice things about 4 wheel disk.
More stopping power
No brake pull due to uneven adjustments
No adjustments
No brake fade
You will have brakes when they get wet. Unlike drums where the water must drain out/evaporate before braking ability returns.
I once washed my 4 wheel drum buggy on a 4 post hoist. soapy water and rinse water got into the drums. When I rolled off the ramps it took 300 feet to finally stop. Good thing the parking lot was empty.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on May 19, 2013 6:18:34 GMT -5
Not all kits are a direct bolt on. Empi is aware of this problem but choose not to address it and correct it. On my Bradly GT2 conversion I did, the parts were poorly made by EMPI. 4 wheel disk brakes with park brakes. 75 type 1 chassis, IRS/ball joints, Chevy-Porsche rotors. Here is problem 1 Rotor will not go on all the way    The fix    Problem 2 Caliper will not mount, hits support bracket before holes line up.   The fix   Problem 3...Instructions for IRS wrong, they are written for swing axle and footnotes for IRS are wrong and incomplete. Seal does not ride on the spacer properly. rotor will not center in caliper support. This is assembled as per inst.  The fix IRS seal sits farther out in housing than swing  The inner thin spacer and small O-ring are not used,The thin spacer can damage the "seal" of the sealed bearing. By using a seal spacer from a swing axle setup [wider one] it ensures the seal is in full contact with the spacer   The supplied washers go between the caliper support and the caliper adapter bracket.  Rear "floating caliper" position.  Hope this helps for anyone having issues. I documented the problems and my supplier forwarded it to EMPI. EMPI is aware of the problem, but I would not expect them to correct it anytime soon. |
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Post by skip20 on May 19, 2013 10:02:49 GMT -5
WOW!!! VW Rear Disc Brake Kit, 4 Lug 4X130, for IRS 1968-72 (w/ E-Brake) Code: 22-2870 Price: $349.95 Good write up on the rear disc brakes. Makes me not want to do it!  But then I spent $200.00 to rebuild the rear drum brake. Another $150.00 could have had better stopping power. |
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