turn signal/ hazard light switch help!

Sounds like you need to find another Shop. What wiring do you have, is it stock GT2?

What Steering column do you have? You should be able to get the turn switch if it is a VW column. That is if the column is made to take the dimmer sw and the turn sw. You may need a new steering column, the earlier columns don't have room for the turn signal sw.

The power does not go through the hazard light switch. It may use a post as a common point for power, But you have other points to get power for the turn signals. The hazard sws are hard to find.
I like your color of paint.
Wyn

Wyn as far as i can tell its stock gt2. Ive seen a buch of people have the same one. None of my turn signals work as of now. I got the car last month and now i kind of know why i thought i got a good deal. If the dimmer switch is on the cluster, none of them work. The breaks alone are costing me close to a grand so far. Yes i need a new shop! The car runs like a top. But to get it street legal i need the turn signals and seat belts thats all that is holding me back. I love the color to thats what kinda drew me to that bradley.

This will work however the front turn signals will come on with the brakes, the same way the rears do. The hazard switch can be bypassed quite easily to correct the problem

jspbtown the back breaks where totally gone. Also needed wheel cylinders in the back and one in front. They said they would have to take the axles out to do it. I work on the river and am only home maybe 3 months a year so its really hard for me to get hands on

Yeah looks like im the one getting axed here! Time to fire that shop and look for a new one. Thank you so much!

$1000 will buy you the entire 4 wheel disk conversion and the instructions on how to install it. I'd be going back and asking for a breakdown on the labor. Lets assume that it is a 73 beetle chassis.

I have the labor guide in front of me at this moment.

Chilton labor guide states
1.5 renew front shoes includes adj add .2 to repack bearings
1.5 renew rear shoes includes adj
2.2 renew all shoes
renew brake springs, freebie if doing shoes.
renew wheel cyl 1.5 hrs each includes bleeding as long as nothing else is done if brakes are being done then it is .5 per cyl

renew brake drum front .9 rear .5 Freebie if doing shoes or wheel cyl as they have to come off and are included in the renew shoe labor.

machine drum add .5 front .3 rear

the back breaks where totally gone. Also needed wheel cylinders in the back and one in front.


one front cyl 1.5 hrs
2 rear cyls is 1 hr
rear shoes and new drums is 1.5

Total 4 hrs by the book. In reality it takes no longer than 2 hrs in a shop.


Rear axle nut torque is 220 ft/lbs. If they did not properly torque these nuts you WILL be buying new drums shortly.


Under no circumstances do the axles have to be removed on any air cooled VW product to do a brake job.

If they cannot come down close to these times then take them to the better business bureau

They lied.

Must have been 2.5 hours per side to remove the axle.......

If I drank beer for 5 hours, it would probably take me 9.6 hours to do a brake job.

When shops pull that kind of funny business it gives a bad name to the whole industry. I know it might seem harsh to call them out on it or report them . Looking at it logically it's the right thing to do to prevent others from being robbed like you were . The one thing we can do in life is not let people treat us like door mats . Lets face it you deserve better than that .

Hey Dan,

Just want to thank you for pointing out the rear wheel nut torque value. I have been driving it around on somewhere around 20 ft/lbs. My 69 Rambler didn't need much torque on nearly identical nuts so I just assumed it was the same. Checked my manual and you were right. Fortunately the teeth in my rear drums are still completely intact.

Thanks

Haven't you heard, due inflation, your pay has been cut by 2/3's

Any way lets get this back on topic.
rizzo81
how much progress have you made on the lights? The lighting circuit is pretty straight forward. If the steering column is from a VW then there is the need for the rear signal module as the signal light switch is not designed for common brake and signal. If it fails then any trailer light module that converts separate brake and signal to common brake and signal will work.

Hazard sw, signal switch, brake switches are all available at
www.cip1.com

If you have the stock VW wiring then the brake sw output does not go near the signal circuit. therefore you must use the brake module.

Here is the 72 diagram, easier to understand than the 73 and basically the same.




Other year VW Beetle diagrams are at www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt1.php


Here are the GT2 diagrams in color








All you need to diagnose the issue is a 12v NON LED test light. It must have an incandescent bulb.

Brake circuit.
Power to brake switches on master {may need key on}/ leaves master when pedal pressed. and heads to module.


All signal light wires pass through the hazard switch. It has the ability to join the left side of the car to the right side so all 4 flash together .

There may be only one combination VW flasher or 2 "normal looking flashers. They may be 3 terminal or 2 terminal units. As the GT2 uses 2 dash indicators they are wired directly to the outputs to the front signals. This can be wired in many different ways. I prefer to mod the systen to use two 2 term flashers as they are simple to understand/cheaper and available everywhere.


Don't forget that this car is made of fiberglass so ALL components need a separate ground wire going to the chassis.

Let me know what you come up with.

I haven't made any progress. I work on a tow boat and wont be back on land till the 27th. I was trying to get the "shop" to do it for me but we all now no. Ill never ask them to do another thing. As soon as i get home. I will get right on this.