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Post by comptrmedic on Dec 10, 2012 13:29:28 GMT -5
Hi everybody, last week I purchased a GT1 pretty much sight unseen. By that I mean I sighted it in an old barn, couldn't really see much of it but it looked solid and complete so I bought it. Had it delivered on saturday and it's all there but it's gonna be a lot of work to restore. The last time it was tagged was in 1983, the tires look brand new but the interiors been thrashed by them little creaturs of the night and both seat pans are rusted thru. Anyhow, does anybody know if Jeff Troy still participates in the group and if he still has CD's available? I sent him an email last week as soon as I knew I was going to get it but haven't heard back from him. I want to do a pan up restoration and sure would like to have all the info I can get. Thanks for any help!
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Post by jspbtown on Dec 10, 2012 15:24:11 GMT -5
Jeff is here. He will find you. He was just posting in the last few days.
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Post by comptrmedic on Dec 10, 2012 15:45:14 GMT -5
"Jeff is here. He will find you." Hey man I just want a cd, don't want no trouble. ;D
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Post by 48flatbed on Dec 10, 2012 16:53:07 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! I have one of Jeffs cds and it is great and well worth it. Jon
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Post by comptrmedic on Dec 10, 2012 18:44:54 GMT -5
Thats what I keep reading. In the meantime can somebody tell me how hard the body is to get off, how many bolts, etc. I have a small skidloader I can lift it with but I shure would hate to miss a bolt or two.
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Post by jspbtown on Dec 10, 2012 23:13:27 GMT -5
Each kit is so very unique on how many bolts there are. You really just have to go around the flange and make sure you get them all.
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Post by zaucy on Dec 11, 2012 0:25:10 GMT -5
What is a CD?
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Dec 11, 2012 4:49:50 GMT -5
Predecessor to the Blue ray disk and DVD, Successor to the cassette tape.
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Post by TexasIceMan on Dec 11, 2012 8:28:21 GMT -5
Besides the bolts holding the body to the frame along each side, you have a few other things that must also be removed or disconnected. The front bumpers could have an 1-1/2" pipe held to the frame with U-bolts. The steering column needs to be disconnected. Mine has a bolt in the center of the back seat. Check the brake fluid tank; it may be attached to the body. Oh, and don't forget about all the wiring that is connected to the engine.
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Post by comptrmedic on Dec 11, 2012 9:21:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys!
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Post by TexasIceMan on Dec 11, 2012 11:20:34 GMT -5
There are a few other things that I remembered. The fuel line will need to be disconnected. Also, the heated air tubing will need to be disconnected from the exhaust system. Throttle cable and any other cables to the carburetor. Also, the battery cable to the starter (mine is routed through the body to get to the starter motor.
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Post by Jeff Troy on Dec 11, 2012 16:54:46 GMT -5
Hi, Medic,
I'm here, I just get busy with my magazine or traveling and don't come on as often as I used to.
I don't recall getting an email from you about the CD, but if I am contacted directly, I always respond within a day, two at the latest.
There's more to body removal than the bolts, but it's basically just following the manual in reverse. Empty the gas tank and washer reservoir. Disconnect gas line from carburetor. Disconnect heater tubes between body side tunnels and heat exchangers. Disconnect engine wiring, brake wiring at the master cylinder and reverse light wiring from transaxle. Remove nine body bolts on each side. Remove all bumper and bumper tube fasteners, including the U-bolts around the front end tube. Disconnect steering biscuit and (don't have to but should) steering post/column tube. Disconnect speedo cable at wheel. Disconnect all ground wires to the chassis and steering box, and check carefully for non-standard owner add-ons that may be in the way. It's also a good idea to remove the shifter before lifting the body.
Don't lift by the bonnet. Lift under the wheel wells (one "roadie" under each well) for the least stress on the body. Raise the body slowly. If you feel any resistance, STOP and find out what and where it is. Remove whatever is hanging up, then try again.
Best to have at least four big bruisers around to lift the body. It isn't that heavy (approximately 300-350 pounds), but you'll have to get it high enough to clear the fan shroud if the engine is still mounted.
Two can do it, four is better. I've done it alone by tilting the body on its side, but you'll have to have a lot of furniture quilts along the side of the car. Try to avoid that if possible, it can be tough on the rear fender overhang and the unsupported center drop under the side tunnels.
The following is what I send out to people who inquire about the CD...
Hi,
The Bradley GT and GTII CDs hold files of the original assembly and wiring manuals, as well as any official updates. The GT CD also holds roughly 36 years and 645 thousand actual miles worth of useful information.
Ordering is easy. Just send $35 through PayPal to jefftroy@aol.com , or you can send $35 by check or money order to:
Jeff Troy 759 New Holland Ave. Lancaster PA 17602
Be sure to state whether you need the GT or the GTII CD. The cars -- and the manuals -- are very different.
The advantage of the CD over an original printed manual is that you can take the pages out to shop and not have to worry about dogging them with oil, grease or other shop debris. If you ruin a page, you can just print another.
One of my CDs just may be the best money you can spend on your car. I'm sure that anyone who has it -- and most owners do -- will tell you that it's extremely helpful.
Bradley GT Information for Owners on CD-ROM Section 00: Text files Section 01: 1976 Original Configuration - Metallic Brown Section 02: 1980 First Rebuild - Cream, Copper and Brown Section 03: 1985 Second Rebuild - White, Blue, Pink and Purple Section 04: 1993-1995 Complete Restoration – Black with Flames Section 05: 1995 Shows Section 06: 1996 The Wreck Section 07: 1997-2000 Re-Body Donor Preparation – CromaLusion Plum Section 08: 2000-2002 Re-Body – Flames added Section 09: Post-2002 Car Shows Section 10: Bonus Section - Bradley GT Manuals and Literature Section 11: On The Road Section 12: Restoration Parts, Literature and Instructions Section 13: Sun Ray Products - Bradley GT Kits and Parts Section 14: Reference Materials Section 15: VW Part Source Catalogs Section 10: Work In Progress Files (additional files to be edited for all sections)
Bradley GTII Structural Plans & Updates on CD-ROM Section 01: GTII Structural Plans, Screen Section 02: GTII Structural Plans, Print Section 03: GTII Parts Inventory Section 04: VW Part Source Catalog Recommendations Section 05: Kit in California 2000 Section 06: Arrival in Lancaster PA 2000 Section 07: Assembling the GTII Full Kit – (never built, so folder is empty) Section 08: Bradley Automotive Catalogs & Literature Section 09: Reference Book Recommendations Section 10: Dropping the Pan
Howzat?
Warmest regards,
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Post by skip20 on Dec 11, 2012 18:01:53 GMT -5
SEE, HE IS ALIVE
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Dec 11, 2012 19:34:44 GMT -5
Welcome to the family. Although the tires look good, they are most likely over 30 years old. Tires have a shelf life, replace them.
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Post by zaucy on Dec 12, 2012 5:44:42 GMT -5
HAHA, I figured CD was in reference to some car part.
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Post by TexasIceMan on Dec 12, 2012 14:19:07 GMT -5
While I’m aware of the 6-year rule, I have also heard that 10 years is the lifespan of a set of tires. Tires degrade with time, use and exposure to sunlight & other elements. Still, I think that 6 years is a conservative estimate. Most manufacturers recommend replacing them before 10 years. One thing that you should check is the date when the tire was manufactured. There is an identification number on the tire sidewall that indicates the date. The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) requires that Tire Identification Numbers be a combination of the letters DOT, followed by ten, eleven or twelve letters and/or numbers that identify the manufacturing location, tire size and manufacturer's code, along with the week and year the tire was manufactured. For tires made after 2000, the last four numbers represent the week and year that the tire was made. For example: DOT U2LL LMLR 5107 DOT U2LL LMLR 5107 Manufactured during the 51st week of the year DOT U2LL LMLR 51 07 Manufactured during 20 07The Tire Identification Number for tires produced prior to 2000 was based on the assumption that tires would not be in service for ten years. While they were required to provide the same information as today’s tires, the week and year the tire was produced was contained in the last three digits. The 2 digits used to identify the week a tire was manufactured immediately preceded a single digit used to identify the year. For example: DOT EJ8J DFM 408 DOT EJ8J DFM 408 Manufactured during the 40th week of the year DOT EJ8J DFM 40 8 Manufactured during the 8th year of the decade And finally, hold on to your sales receipt. Most tire manufacturer's warranties cover their tires for four years from the date of purchase or five years from the week the tires were manufactured. I hope this helps. Attachments:
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Dec 12, 2012 18:34:38 GMT -5
Odds are the tires were a few years old before they were installed, therefore 30+ years old. But texasiceman is correct. Look to see if a date code exists.
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Post by comptrmedic on Dec 14, 2012 11:18:01 GMT -5
Jeff: I just paypal'd you money for a GT disk. Everybody else: Thanks for info!! Don't worry about the tires guys, they're gone, not going to drive around on standard 1970's bias ply tires if I can help it!!
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Post by TexasIceMan on Dec 14, 2012 13:26:43 GMT -5
I am guessing that you will have a lot of questions as you do your restoration project. I just bought my first Bradley GT and having fun with it. One of the members has done a lot of work on his kit car, Bob Thagard "Big Bob". Here is his website: mysite.verizon.net/bobthagard1/car/He included pictures of his work on the floor pans that you might find useful. Good luck!
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Post by cocacoladodge on Dec 14, 2012 14:23:02 GMT -5
Nice info on the tires Texas! Now i can prove to my dad I'm not making that up, thank you!
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Post by brianboggs on Dec 31, 2012 15:40:03 GMT -5
Pictures?
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