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Post by papasdoo on Aug 3, 2012 4:35:51 GMT -5
Found some spare time to get my 74 gt 1 up and running took it out for first test drive and found the pedals are kind of close togather for my big feat(11 1/2 eee ) does any one have any ideas how to get a little more room between them and it seams like the travel is way to far when depressing the clutch and brakes any ideas appreciated drawings and picks good too. Thanks Jerry
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Aug 3, 2012 6:46:38 GMT -5
There is a kit to space out the clutch and brake unique-parts.com/?wpsc-product=extended-clutch-pedal-shaft but the brake to gas remains the same. I too have the same prob, size 12 eeeeeeeee. I simply heat the clutch and brake pedal arms with oxy acet torch near the pivot and bend them to the left. Let them cool down on their own.
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Post by smyrnaguy on Aug 3, 2012 7:02:49 GMT -5
The first couple of days I drove mine I felt like I was stepping on my own feet. I wear a 14 and I'm certain those pedals weren't designed to be used with clown shoes. However you will develop a feel for the pedals after a few hours behind the wheel. There's someone on thesamba.com that sells wider set pedals for wide feet. Try a search there. Certain shoes have their dangers too. I somehow managed to get a shoestring loop around my clutch pedal the other day and couldn't get my foot away from the pedal until I'd slipped off the shoe.
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Post by skip20 on Aug 3, 2012 8:24:02 GMT -5
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Post by jspbtown on Aug 3, 2012 8:33:06 GMT -5
Here is the ad on The Samba: www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1340666I just bought one of their kits. I haven't installed it yet but it is a very high quality kit & the poeple are great to deal with. It also eliminates the clutch cable popping off the standard clutch hook
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Post by papasdoo on Aug 3, 2012 17:05:12 GMT -5
Thanks guys the torch heating n bending did the trick now I have room and it dosent feal like my foot is going to get stuck betwean them I feal a lot safer now
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Post by cocacoladodge on Aug 5, 2012 9:29:00 GMT -5
I'm still having mastercylinder problems with my 76 GT, so right now I'm just using clutch, gas, and handbrake...yeah I know I need to 'Git R Dun' but I don't hae the time. I like the look of the petal for bigfooted people like me ( 13 wide), people think I have a lead foot right now, i tell them mine i twice the size of theirs so i can go twice as fast... but even in my ford probe i had my feet were catching the other petals too. glad I'm not the only one.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Aug 5, 2012 10:31:19 GMT -5
I'm still having mastercylinder problems with my 76 GT, so right now I'm just using clutch, gas, and handbrake...yeah I know I need to 'Git R Dun' but I don't hae the time. I like the look of the petal for bigfooted people like me ( 13 wide), people think I have a lead foot right now, i tell them mine i twice the size of theirs so i can go twice as fast... but even in my ford probe i had my feet were catching the other petals too. glad I'm not the only one. Bad idea relying on the park brake. Front does 60-70% of the stopping. If you don't have the time to fix it you should park it. Glad my kids and I do not live in your town.
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Post by smyrnaguy on Aug 6, 2012 9:44:25 GMT -5
I'd rather have a car that won't start than one that won't stop. Driving is so much more relaxed.
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Post by cocacoladodge on Aug 6, 2012 10:43:00 GMT -5
I'm hardly driving it at all right now, I just can't seem to get the master set correctly. how do you set the pistons stop point so it doesn't push all the way to the floor? even going to floor its not working. this is the 3rd new master i've gotten, none had instructions with it.
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Post by jspbtown on Aug 6, 2012 10:59:59 GMT -5
Have you adjusted your brake shoes properly? How have you bled the brakes?
I like to adjust both sures so they are tight against the drums. Then bleed in the normal fashion (RR, LR, RF, LF). After bleeding back them off EVENLY until there is a slight drag.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Aug 6, 2012 11:55:33 GMT -5
I'm hardly driving it at all right now, I just can't seem to get the master set correctly. how do you set the pistons stop point so it doesn't push all the way to the floor? even going to floor its not working. this is the 3rd new master i've gotten, none had instructions with it. There is no piston stop point. Set the pushrod on the pedal so there is appox 1/4" pedal travel before the piston in the master starts to move. Adj all 8 brake shoe star adjusters evenly so there is slight drag on the wheels. Bleed the brakes starting with bleeding the master using plugs where the lines screw in. When there is no travel other than the original 1/4" remove the plugs and connect the lines. In the following order bleed the lines, rr lr rf lf. Keep the reservolir full. Jf your front wheel cyl are in the 3 and 9 o'clock position remove the front backing plate bolts and rotate the plate to put the wheel cyl to 12 o'clock. slip the drums on and bleed. Bleeding master cvlinders. There is lots of controversy here about bench bleeding. It is always better to do it. The procedure below will test the master at the same time. Mount the master to the car but do not hook up the lines. Then follow the procedure. It can also be done in a vise but is a little more difficult. New and improved master cylinder bench bleeding procedure www.cardone.com/english/club/products/brakes/protech/articles/Bleeder.aspThe most common problem customers face when installing master cylinders is improper bleeding procedures. In the past, CARDONE supplied a bleeder kit that consisted of plugs with holes. Tubes pressed on to the holes in order to bench bleed the master cylinder. Although this kit was successful when used properly, it was not the best process. One of our goals in Technical Services is to improve every process. We found a better way. The new bleeder kit comes with solid plugs to bench bleed the replacement unit. The advantages of the new process are: More efficient to bleed the master cylinder. No mess or fluid dripping when bench bleeding or when installing the unit on the vehicle. Proving the unit is functional during bench bleeding. If the piston is firm when bench bleeding and not on the vehicle when bleeding, the brake system is at fault, NOT THE MASTER CYLINDER. The following process is supplied with each CARDONE replacement master cylinder. You can help our customers by stressing the importance of following every process we include with our parts, to prevent warranties and increase sales. 1) Transfer proportioning valves, switches or other components to the replacement master cylinder (as applicable). 2) Tighten bleeder plugs into ports (bleeder plugs may be in parts kit or master cylinder reservoir). 3) Support the master cylinder in a vise in a level position. Never clamp onto the body of the master cylinder. NOTE: Units with remote reservoirs should be bled on the vehicle. It is VERY IMPORTANT that the body of the master cylinder be kept level during the bleeding process. 4) Fill reservoirs halfway or until reservoir ports are covered. Always use new brake fluid from a sealed container as specified by the vehicle manufacturer. 5) Install reservoir lid so brake fluid does not spray from reservoir during bleeding process. 6) Using a blunt tool or dowel (brake pedal if mounted in vehicle), SLOWLY press in and release the master cylinder piston using short strokes of 3/4” to 1”. NEVER STROKE PISTON MORE THAN 1”. Repeat this step until resistance to piston movement is firm and less than 1/8”. IMPORTANT NOTE: On step-bore master cylinders, WAIT 20 SECONDS BETWEEN STROKES. This will allow air trapped in the quick take-up valve to rise into reservoir. MASTER CYLINDER BODY MUST BE LEVEL. 7) Install master cylinder on vehicle. DO NOT remove bleeder plugs until brake lines are ready to be installed. This prevents air from entering the unit and brake fluid leaking out. Remove one bleeder plug at a time from the master cylinder and connect the proper brake line to that port. Repeat this step for remaining brake line ports. Be sure fluid level is maintained during installation of brake lines and that all fittings are clean before installation. Bleed brake system according to vehicle manufacturer’s procedures and specifications. 9) Verify proper pedal action before moving vehicle. Do not road test vehicle until correct pedal feel and travel are obtained. NOTE: If firm brake pedal action results using bleeder plugs, but becomes soft after installation in vehicle, the problem is not the replacement master cylinder. INSTALLATION TIP OF THE MONTH: Read before you proceed! If you do not have plugs, get brake line fittings and plug weld them.
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Post by cocacoladodge on Aug 6, 2012 15:01:10 GMT -5
on my way to autozone (in my pickup, don't worry) with one of the "new" masters I thought was junk to get plugs or something i can make plugs out of. thanks again, i know I read aboutbench bleading before, i missed the part on the plugs, and just had short lines pointed up so fluid just sprayed all over the wall. hopfully this will work better.
Also about to order one of those wide pedal sets, and pickup a new pushrod from the local dunebuggyshop. when shes good i'll post an update.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Aug 6, 2012 16:21:57 GMT -5
You probably did not miss it as most do not know this procedure. Make sure the pedal stop on the floor is set so the 2 pedals are even. The stop adjusts the pedal position at rest. That 1/4" free play is most important otherwise the fluid cannot return to the master. Brakes will stay applied. Fluid will boil. Total loss of brakes will occur.
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Post by jspbtown on Aug 6, 2012 17:25:10 GMT -5
I have never bench bled a master before and have never had an issue with my kits. Certainly not bad advice though.
My biggest help was cranking the shoes tight against the drums. Just my personal observation...nothing more.
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