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Post by whcgt on Dec 21, 2011 12:13:26 GMT -5
Increase your candlepower & headlight life with: 7" round 12v LED Headlights. Made for all vehicles that use 7" round standard headlights. Truck-Lite Co. Inc. 310 E. Elmwood Ave. Falconer, NY. 14733 1-800-562-5012 www.truck-lite.comAttachments:
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Post by jspbtown on Dec 21, 2011 12:50:45 GMT -5
You do realize they are about $500 a pair right?
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Post by whcgt on Dec 21, 2011 13:35:16 GMT -5
Nothing escapes me..I am aware of the cost. I also like the Black Mamba shifter & various other high quality components. I am very interested in the Esslinger VW to Ford 2.3 engine adapter kit. Expensive...but worth it to me. Customized component cars, merit investment & creativity. I know, I know, there are alot of cheap/cost effective options for any & all parts...when building & working on cars. Every person has the right to develope & spend what they wish for their vehicles. Ahhh jspbtown...is there any post of mine that you won't critique? You have done a wonderful job with your Avenger GT...I believe you finally decided to power it with an H code 1500cc vw engine. Same exact engine that is in my Invader GT. I traded my Fiero GT, for my Invader GT project. The Invader GT had not been running for around 30+ years or so. I got it running & wired,new tires,brakes,road legalised,etc. In about 1 month vs. the lengthy duration of time it took you to get your Avenger GT up & running. Albeit, your Avenger GT is fully restored & my Invader GT is an ongoing project. The point being...people go about their kit cars/vehicles in different ways. Therefore, your critiquing of me...is not necessary.
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Post by jspbtown on Dec 21, 2011 15:05:31 GMT -5
William.....lots of things escape you.
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Post by whcgt on Dec 21, 2011 15:21:29 GMT -5
William.....lots of things escape you. Things that interest me, do not escape me. I will say that your tel. number has escaped me. My number is 406-926-1201. Sure would like to have a civilized conversation with you...but you hide behind thread jacking..without speaking with people in person or over the phone. BTW...whcgt=90 points on autopuzzles...jspbtown=0 points on autopuzzles. Granted I did get suspended from autopuzzles...due to the sack-less members, who dished out nastyness...but couldn't take nastyness in return.
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Post by centralvalleygter on Dec 21, 2011 16:34:21 GMT -5
whcgt, I am confused. I do not think I have ever seen anyone accuse jspbtown of that you have accused him of. It appears you react out of your own insecurities. I have seen his responses as just informational comments at least until you start striking out. This is a forum where people add by expressing their views, even if they differ from our own. There have not been personal affronts until you start. Sincerely...
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Post by whcgt on Dec 21, 2011 17:04:50 GMT -5
whcgt, I am confused. I do not think I have ever seen anyone accuse jspbtown of that you have accused him of. It appears you react out of your own insecurities. I have seen his responses as just informational comments at least until you start striking out. This is a forum where people add by expressing their views, even if they differ from our own. There have not been personal affronts until you start. Sincerely... I am sorry you are confused. Anyhow, I like to show components & their sources...that may be of interest with kit car owners. I like to also show some of the ideas & projects that I work on.
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Post by brianboggs on Jan 10, 2012 6:27:32 GMT -5
Most people that build Bradleys pay less than that for the car. And by the time they are finished with the build have way more in it than they are worth(which is nothing) Who in their right mind would spend $500 for headlights?
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Post by whcgt on Jan 10, 2012 15:13:44 GMT -5
Hmm well, I'll just say. I showed these LED headlights as a possible option for people(just the messenger). Who pays $6,000 for one MagicTheGathering playing card(Black Lotus) Not me but, people do what they want. For me personally, I have a sinister/requirement for these particular headlights...as I am in the process of re-engineering my Invader GT to be both a street legal car & also an endurance/road race machine...much like the Porsche 906 & the Ford GT40. My Invader GT will require lighting that is solid state & able to cope with extremely high speeds & vibration. Would like to eventually evolve my Invader GT, into a machine capable of competing in the 25 hours of Thunderhill as well as the kit car top gun shootout as well as the Silver State Classic, as well as S.C.C.A., & other events...including driving the desolate roads here in Montana where I live...driving at the limit, provided the road is traffic free.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 10, 2012 15:29:22 GMT -5
You build your car, the way you like, within your budget, with your ideas, with your components, on your time table. What The Hey, these LED lights are used by the military, auto racing teams, offroad vehicles, etc. If there good enough for them, there good enough for me. Expensive? Yes. We do what we want with our component cars, of course within the legalities of where we live.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 10, 2012 15:40:03 GMT -5
Never would I spend $500 on a set of headlights.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 10, 2012 16:34:53 GMT -5
Hmm, this is fine, build your car to your standards & requirements. I have a goal of making my Invader GT perform at a level its styling & aerodynamics & design layout...say it should. I have a 100% determination to show any & all...my tail lights if & when I choose to. I am not alone, with the desire to re-engineer these old GT kit cars to perform the way they look like they should. There is something about having a self built, unbeatable & rare machine, that appeals to kit car/specialty owners. Ahh, going fast on a budget & doing it yourself. Did I say fast? I meant to say really, really fast.
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Post by dawgdk on Jan 10, 2012 20:10:14 GMT -5
That's the main reason the Bradley gt is worth what it is. People sale their Bradley's way too cheap!! If everyone started treating them like they were worth something,they would actually rise in value!! It's not the car but the popularity of the car that determines the true value of something. You can take something that has value and down play it enough people will start shying away from it.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 10, 2012 20:25:21 GMT -5
Hmm, this is fine, build your car to your standards & requirements. I have a goal of making my Invader GT perform at a level its styling & aerodynamics & design layout...say it should. I have a 100% determination to show any & all...my tail lights if & when I choose to. I am not alone, with the desire to re-engineer these old GT kit cars to perform the way they look like they should. There is something about having a self built, unbeatable & rare machine, that appeals to kit car/specialty owners. Ahh, going fast on a budget & doing it yourself. Did I say fast? I meant to say really, really fast. If I wanted a car that would perform at a level of its styling and design say it should I would by a ferrari. Fact is the Invader does not scream fast at any angle. Generally speaking the Bradley does not either.
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Post by gitrdun on Jan 10, 2012 20:28:33 GMT -5
Its worth what it will bring. I recently gave $2200 for my Bradley, it was 90% ready to go. Just needs a few things touched up as it has sat in a garage for probably 20 years without much use. The sad thing is, a year ago on an impulse i bought a Bradley that had a rolling chassis but the body was terrible and the rest was a basket case. Would have taken probably $3000+ to get it built. Then one day i looked into what these things are worth complete. So the basket case sits in the corner of my garage in the same shape i bought it.
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 10, 2012 20:47:59 GMT -5
I bought mine and did a body off to it for a little over $3500 . I have no delusions that I could anything more than that. I have always been told a vehicle is only worth what the market will pay for it.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 10, 2012 23:37:06 GMT -5
Can you hear me blowing sarcasm through my nose at pundits & the all knowing??? I do not care so much about the value of my Invader GT...only that it performs the way I want it to. The Invader GT comes from the same era as the Chaparral 2D as well as the Ferrari P4. Is there anyone who does not see the aerodynamic nose design influences of the Chaparral 2D...in the nose of the Invader GT? Is there anyone who does not see the Ferrari P4 mid-body air intake influencing that is on my raked windshield Invader GT??? Is there anyone who does not see or know the law of physics regarding 38" rear engined 1500lbs. machinery??? Based on the humble VW chassis...YES...available modern components that allow for re-engineering an old GT component car? YES. Please DO dream, envision, & plan regarding the possiblities that are out there for these old GT cars. Open your eyes/wake up to what can be accomplished with effort & research. I like the idea of having the only competitive raked windshield Invader GT out there. I don't give a d**n about following the crowd or utilizaing a relatively common/known machine for my chariot. Will it be cheap?? Hell no, that is not what matters to me. BTW..it is pretty important to not equate an Invader GT with a Bradley GT regarding high speed efficiency & stability. My Invader GT has the nice long/low pressure area for her nose..this is for downforce..as utilized by the above mentioned Chaparral 2D as well as the Porsche 906,Lola T70, GT40 MK4, McLaren M6, etc. etc. etc. Much longer nose & slipperyness than the Bradley GT. The Bradley Gt is a very nice component car & can be used for racing(short distance/autocrossing & daily driving. Head out of the sand people..thank you...look at the facts...look at the aftermarket, obey the law of physics...& please do not be a Doubting Thomas...just to be regarded as the final word regarding re-engineering old GT component cars. Just because you can't see potential in a vehicle does not make you the final authority on what can & cannot be done with a machine. Your opinions are respected & matter...but I will prevail with how I am building my machine.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 10, 2012 23:50:49 GMT -5
There is alot of creativity & modifing & component upgrading & so on...to be done with my Invader GT. This is exactly what I am up to. No need for any more stating of the obvious(I know she's old & tired..but I am bringing her back). Please be positive & let me do what I want to do. I am happy with what you do with your cars...I do not critique your machinery...so please be kind, thank you. william
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 0:29:56 GMT -5
Ahh, perhaps seeing photos of my Invader GT...has mislead people to believe that the air is being hindered by the headlight design. Tisk, tisk, I've got new headlight covers..when put on...she's slicker than snot on a bugar. Also designed for form following function...nice front & oblik illumination. Not necessarily that nice looking..but definately utilized by many great GT endurance race cars.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 0:55:38 GMT -5
For those lagging behind, with a lack of imaginary skills...she's not currently 38" tall. But she will be, also the car is not on an I.R.S. chassis, she's on a crappy swingaxle chassis. Can I utilize CB performance narrowed adjustable front beam with racing disc brakes??? You bet I can, once I place the body on an I.R.S. chassis. Can I also, simply cut the front frame head & weld in a Mustang II front suspension??? You bet I can. Can I use a variety of powertrain options for the Invader GT??? You bet I can. Many, many options: Pretty much any front wheel drive front clip & suspension/frame...VW VR6 front clip & powertrain frame...Oldsmobile TH425 with a V8...Subaru EJ20T...Ford Pinto...Mazda Rotory...Porsche 911 transaxle conversion with a Porsche 6 cyl. Can I create a double windowed rear window set up??? You bet I can(1) window the traditional verticle window(2) flush mounted secondary window...to improve aerodynamics. Can I use chin spoilers & an adjustable blade rear spoiler for stability adjustments??? You bet I can. Can I create a lower side valence/rocker panel & a flat bottom belly pan??? You bet I can. Can I create a strengthened chassis out of chromoly tubing & integrate this into the body & chassis??? You bet I can. She is in a poor condition but improving...I have all the time in the world, to re-engineer my Invader GT. Lots of options...must see beyond where she is now & find a way to grasp what I am up to with my Invader GT.
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 2:31:38 GMT -5
Here is a nice Invader GT, that can give you some idea as to the way I am re-engineering mine. I will be doing things differently to mine...but pretty similar...gives you the basic idea that I am undertaking. Don't care if you think it is ugly, don't care if you prefer common cars...as your race car of choice, don't care about if it valuable. Basically I am saying to you that I don't care about any individual or group opinion regarding the Invader GT. I do care & I do like the Bradley GT's & other cars that you are building & creating & showing here. I like what you are doing with your machines. Back to the topic...I was merely showing the option(just the messenger), of the LED 7" round headlights. Don't care if you get them or not, don't care if they are to pricy. Hopefully, everyone can be happy with what they are building & can accept others, doing whatever the hell they want to do with their component car(s).
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 2:33:04 GMT -5
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 2:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by whcgt on Jan 11, 2012 2:42:52 GMT -5
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Post by kitcarguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:26:44 GMT -5
Yeah still not sharing your vision.
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Post by jspbtown on Jan 11, 2012 9:20:52 GMT -5
Can I utilize CB performance narrowed adjustable front beam with racing disc brakes??? You bet I can, once I place the body on an I.R.S. chassis. - Sure...but then you have a 50 year old suspension designed for an economy car which was never designed to do anything other then get down the road at no faster than 75mph under your aerodynamic vision of a car.
Can I also, simply cut the front frame head & weld in a Mustang II front suspension??? You bet I can. - No you can't.
Can I use a variety of powertrain options for the Invader GT??? You bet I can. Many, many options: Pretty much any front wheel drive front clip & suspension/frame...VW VR6 front clip & powertrain frame...Oldsmobile TH425 with a V8...Subaru EJ20T...Ford Pinto...Mazda Rotory...Porsche 911 transaxle conversion with a Porsche 6 cyl. - Too much weight, no room for cooling, terrible gearing and performance ability. Anybody can create a monstrosity. Your formulas for performance are based on a fantasy. Its really time to admit that you can't afford it or build it. Now you can still dream it....but put some more research into your dreams before you lay them out for criticism. And in the future...include one completed example of anything you are proposing. I doubt you will find many for a very good reason.
Can I create a double windowed rear window set up??? You bet I can(1) window the traditional verticle window(2) flush mounted secondary window...to improve aerodynamics. - You don't need great aerodynamics to go 75mph.
Can I use chin spoilers & an adjustable blade rear spoiler for stability adjustments??? You bet I can. - That may be beneficial for 100mph plus...but you cannot get there. You don't have the money or the base car to do it.,
Can I create a lower side valence/rocker panel & a flat bottom belly pan??? You bet I can. - Again....for no useful purpose. But I guess you could.
Can I create a strengthened chassis out of chromoly tubing & integrate this into the body & chassis??? - You can't afford that. Could someone else? Maybe. But I would bet that if they had the money they would not waste it like that.
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Post by brianboggs on Jan 11, 2012 10:12:28 GMT -5
I had a Bradley GT that I used to race in 1970 that I did endurance races. I used a 1600 motor and stock suspension and beat the pants off of plenty of other types of cars. MG's. Triumphs, Jags. I couldnt keep up with the Mustangs and Camaros though!!. Build it but plan on keeping it. Just like you found out earlier this year people just have an issue with the body styling.
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jan 11, 2012 11:24:29 GMT -5
Its your car and you can do what you want with it. I wouldn't recommend trying to use an adjustable front beam and incorporate MII suspension. One front axle is enough. LOL. I can see using those lights. I bought a set of C5 Vette racing lights for my GT. Pricey enough at $300. If you go front engine it will add at least a year to your build. Having built a few Frankencars I know that its best to build with the basics first then go performance as you can afford it. If you want to compete with Farrari right out of the box then you'd better have very deep pockets.
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