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Post by kitcarguy on Nov 30, 2011 17:52:54 GMT -5
I am in need of a second vehicle and I would like to purchase a truck. It does not have to be new just low mileage. Anyone out there have a recommendation ? would prefer seating for 4 (ext cab, quad cab, etc) a V8 and a 12-17k price range.
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Post by Charles Thomas on Nov 30, 2011 20:14:58 GMT -5
If you aren't too concerned about fuel economy, or looks but you want a truck that can really tow... You could get an older international harvester crew cab. I have a 1973 1210 Travelette, with only 100,000 miles on it, still gets 15mpg (freeway) and will tow darn near anything. I have towed a 30ft enclosed trailer on the freeway at 70 for several hundred miles without any issues. The cab is comfortable, and seats 6 very easily. The engines in these guys are bulletproof! They came in automatic or four speed manual with granny shift. I paid a whopping $600 for it. Then again I am a big advocate for recycling old cars rather than buying a new car.
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Post by kitcarguy on Nov 30, 2011 21:19:40 GMT -5
I like it! My girlfriend would kill me but whatever..haha . All kidding aside I would need something newer. 2004 and up. I have looked at a Tundra V8 as well as an 2006 Ford F150 Crew Cab but just to many choices out there.
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Post by Gary Hammond on Nov 30, 2011 22:46:25 GMT -5
I had a 1995 regular cab F150 straight six which was a pretty good truck. But I needed something that would also let me take the grandkids with me and still pull a trailer. It averaged about 17 mpg. So I traded it for a 1999 V-8 Mountaineer, which is a great second vehicle. It'll haul people or things or both, and pull a trailer as well. It's great in snow or mud, but only gets 15 to 17 mpg average. Only gets 12 mpg winter in town, but up to 21 mpg summer highway light load. Don't overlook a SUV. It'll do a lot of what a truck will do! Gary Hammond,
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Post by dawgdk on Nov 30, 2011 23:08:40 GMT -5
don't overlook the yukon and tahoe they can seat up to 9 and come with towing package they are also cheaper on fuel than the ford of comparable size
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Post by Gary Hammond on Dec 1, 2011 0:08:56 GMT -5
Hi Dawgdk, don't overlook the yukon and tahoe they can seat up to 9 and come with towing package they are also cheaper on fuel than the ford of comparable size Well, I just looked up the specs on the 2012 Expedition and the 2012 Suburban. What you said is only partially true!! The Suburban is slightly larger with a slightly larger engine and will haul up to 9 people and tow up to 9600 lbs. But it only gets 10 mpg city and 15 mpg highway. The Expedition hauls up to 8 people and tows up to 9200 lbs and gets 14mpg city and 20 mpg highway. No way the comparable Chevy gets better mileage than the Ford!! At any rate, I'd rather push a Ford than drive a "Government Motors"!! Gary Hammond,
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 1, 2011 8:05:10 GMT -5
I also like the Jeep Commander with the V8. I am not against an SUV at all. I will need to haul a trailer from time to time
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Post by dawgdk on Dec 1, 2011 11:26:17 GMT -5
Gary, I was actually speaking of the Tahoe and Yukon not the Submarine lol. My Yukon standard length model seats 9. You could remove the rear seat and still seat 6. I have a ford truck and a yukon and i've had nothing but trouble out of the ford !! I've always liked the styling of the Fords but they've been nothing but grief for me !! I have a Taurus in the back yard that needs a transmission, driving down the road and stopped for a light in downtown traffic went to take off and there was no gears there !! Had to push the car into a nearby business with the family aboard !!
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Post by centralvalleygter on Dec 1, 2011 11:59:55 GMT -5
Funny, how different people have different experiences with cars. My brother is definately a Chevy fan (partly because is broader availability of performance enhancing parts for less money), but I have had great success with Fords (put more than 250,000 miles on three different vehicles without major problems). However, have had a bit more trouble with my current Ranger pickup (rear axle bearings 2x - warranty repaired & previously mentioned ignition switch problem - not under warranty). Warmest....
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 1, 2011 12:37:43 GMT -5
I have had enough cars in my life time and my fair share of problems. I decided a long time ago that I am not brand loyal. I hear Chrysler/dodge stinks but I have a trouble free 2006 PT with 60k miles and a 1999 Cirrus with 179k miles. Both run fine but the 99 is getting tired.
I have also owned a new civic that off the dealer lot had nothing but issues.
I want something that will tow a 26 or so ft trailer, in a V8 and an SUV or ext/quad cab truck
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Post by dawgdk on Dec 1, 2011 14:24:39 GMT -5
the cummins deisel is great for pulling and so is the allison tranny mate them together in the international and you got yourself a keeper!
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Post by Eric A on Dec 1, 2011 17:51:23 GMT -5
I have a 96 Tahoe 4wd and is has been a great truck. I pull my enclosed trailer all the time with no problem. It gets 12 mpg in town and about 16 hwy. we have all ford ambulances at work and they are the biggest pieces of crap that ever rolled off the line. 70K miles and they are done and most is hwy miles for them. Of course I took my 2011 Honda element in for it's first service today and found out they cross threaded the oil filter at the factory. So I guess everyone builds some junk. Eric
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Dec 5, 2011 11:22:03 GMT -5
Never owned a truck but being in the business of repairing them I found that GM ensured. I had a job every day. Ford was second followed by dodge. I saw imports the least. While domestic parts are cheaper they get repaired more often. Imports are generally better made but parts are more expensive. For me downtime is the deciding factor. I will go with an import over a domestic.
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Post by Gary Hammond on Dec 5, 2011 11:46:19 GMT -5
Hi Dan, Never owned a truck but being in the business of repairing them I found that GM ensured. I had a job every day. Ford was second followed by dodge. I saw imports the least. While domestic parts are cheaper they get repaired more often. Imports are generally better made but parts are more expensive. For me downtime is the deciding factor. I will go with an import over a domestic. Have you considered that the F150 has been the #1 selling vehicle in the world for at least the past 10 years? With more of them on the road than anything else they should require the most repairs and Imports the least just due to the volumes sold over the past 10 years or so! Only the "government motors" vehicles would not follow this trend based on your experience! LOL Gary Hammond,
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Post by dawgdk on Dec 5, 2011 20:34:36 GMT -5
my dad bought a ford f150 new in 82 with the 300 6 cylinder and that thing pulled cars to the scrapper 2 at a time e pulled a hanger building package on a 40 ft gooseneck plus hauled all sorts of lumber for his house building days and never had to have anything done except standard upkeep it had over 300,ooo miles plus it went a couple a years with the speedo unplugged.
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Post by dawgdk on Dec 5, 2011 20:35:23 GMT -5
my dad bought a ford f150 new in 82 with the 300 6 cylinder and that thing pulled cars to the scrapper 2 at a time e pulled a hanger building package on a 40 ft gooseneck plus hauled all sorts of lumber for his house building days and never had to have anything done except standard upkeep it had over 300,ooo miles plus it went a couple a years with the speedo unplugged.
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 5, 2011 21:12:56 GMT -5
To many decisions ..lol
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Post by Charles Thomas on Dec 6, 2011 19:23:23 GMT -5
Only the "government motors" Interesting side note, here on the base, all of our duty vehicles are either ford or dodge. Primarily Ford. I have never liked to pick a truck based on the name. I have noticed abilities and longevity change based more on the year and options it comes with than the name. ' For example, I have had serious problems with 85-92 Rangers, but my 88 Chevy ran to over 400,000 miles. However, the late 2004 Ford diesel out pulls the Chevy without even trying.
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Post by Dan MacMillan on Dec 7, 2011 19:18:08 GMT -5
Hi Dan, Never owned a truck but being in the business of repairing them I found that GM ensured. I had a job every day. Ford was second followed by dodge. I saw imports the least. While domestic parts are cheaper they get repaired more often. Imports are generally better made but parts are more expensive. For me downtime is the deciding factor. I will go with an import over a domestic. Have you considered that the F150 has been the #1 selling vehicle in the world for at least the past 10 years? With more of them on the road than anything else they should require the most repairs and Imports the least just due to the volumes sold over the past 10 years or so! Only the "government motors" vehicles would not follow this trend based on your experience! LOL Gary Hammond, You are probably right but I am basing it on our extensive clientele. We had on average 1200 repeat customer base. Pretty much an equal split between the domestics, about 100 imports. We rarely had to fix the imports. If going with domestic I agree that ford makes a good product.
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