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Post by darrenz on Jun 4, 2011 22:19:10 GMT -5
I want to buy brand new components for a chevette or some kind of small car and wanted to know if anyone has done.I was just going to use A switch to turn on compressor.no controls. I was going to make a evap core box and try to tie to existing blowers. My main thing is a small enough v belt compressor.
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Post by jspbtown on Jun 5, 2011 9:53:11 GMT -5
Wouldn't just one of the universal kits from Vintage Air (or similar) be a whole lot easier/
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Post by darrenz on Jun 5, 2011 15:06:55 GMT -5
Thanks. Ill check that. Out.
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jun 6, 2011 10:09:10 GMT -5
I made my system out of odds and ends. I used a GT2 evaporator, a condensor left over from a hot rod project, a new Sanden 134A compressor, new hoses, controls and drier. You can get almost everything you need at nostalgicairparts.com. The hardest thing to come across is the compressor bracket. I made mine form scratch. The biggest expense was the hoses. You'll find that most of the "universal" kits don't have hoses even close to long enough. They're made for front engine cars. I ordered my hoses and ends and assembled them to fit properly. Then a wrap of masking tape around the hose just below the fitting. Using a Sharpie I made alignment marks on the fittings and tapes so that the fittings would be oriented correctly. Next disassemble and take to be crimped. You can't go wrong this way.
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stevevw
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Post by stevevw on Jun 6, 2011 15:52:08 GMT -5
The ICE and Gilmore kits are about $1500 plus.
I am trying to rescue an old sysem from my non running GT2.
smyrnaguy can you post which compressor you used , I have been researching for quite a while and no one will say the exact model they use .
I have kinda narrowed it to a Sanden 505 or a Seltec TM08.
Any feed back on this would be greatly appreciated .
Cheers ,Steve
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jun 6, 2011 18:35:08 GMT -5
My compressor is a Sanden U4510 I bought on ebay for $65 (new, shipping included). I made the brackets using pictures that were posted on here and added a tensioning bolt under the compressor. I've set it so that the belt runs in the rearmost groove. Everything runs smooth and straight and I haven't used the tensioner yet even though I'm running a single belt. So far, so good...  Note the spare stock belt wrapped around the coil. I switch belts when tuning or adjusting. I'm not sticking my hand in that thing while it spins. |
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Post by darrenz on Jun 6, 2011 20:53:31 GMT -5
Thanks. Ordering a complete kit from nastalgic for 600.think I will mount evap box in back so hopefully lines will be long enough.ill post pics in few weeks when done as have busy work schedule.
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jun 7, 2011 13:19:09 GMT -5
I thought about putting the evaporator in the rear and it would have been easy. What I couldn't do was mount the condensor and fan in the rear where it wouldn't have been directly over or under an axle. It fit best in front of the beam, below the right headlight. I hope you have better luck and can save some coin.
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JohnDriver
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life is what happens while you make other plans
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Post by JohnDriver on Jun 7, 2011 16:54:23 GMT -5
I bought most of the system out of the back of a conversion van at the wrecking yard. it had extra long hoses and the evap was mounted with its own fan. and air box.I also got all the ducting ect. I also looked at the rear air on suburbans.similar setup.
I had bought a used vw setup with bracket,but it used a weird sub pully system(bolts to the stock crank pulley) another note sanden style compressors(3-5 HP) are more efficent than york style(5-8 HP)
as a note,if you use R12 you can make the hoses(cut and hoseclamp) but if you use R134 you cant clamp them(the molecules of 134 are smaller than 12)they will leak off.also you have to flush the system If you dont know what oil was used.If you mix a/c oils they turn to goo in the system(pag/ester ect)
you can also check limousine supply /or jc whitney for these parts new.
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Post by darrenz on Jun 8, 2011 21:25:21 GMT -5
Ok kit ordered but called napa for crimp tool and its 200
What's everyone else been doing?
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Post by smyrnaguy on Jun 9, 2011 6:29:14 GMT -5
I took my hoses to the local auto machine shop and they crimped them for me. It was about $5 per hose end or $40. They use a hydraulic crimper with tons more squeeze than a ratcheting crimper. How often would you use that $200 tool? Anyplace that makes hydraulic line should be able to crimp them for you.
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Post by darrenz on Jun 9, 2011 19:54:38 GMT -5
Thanks that's what t was wondering.
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